The Australian government began the “Threatened Species Strategy” back in 2015, with a large part of the plan to protect Australian wildlife being the culling of 2 million cats by 2020. New reports indicate this may not be enough, due to high rates of reproduction, and also highlights how habitat loss due to the construction of urban development as well as mining operations may be a much larger piece of the puzzle. One scholarly article indicates that “clearing of native vegetation in NSW rose by 800% between 2013 and 2016.” Joining us was Euan Ritchie, Associate Professor in Wildlife Ecology and Conservation, Centre for Integrative Ecology, School of Life & Environmental Sciences, at Deakin University.